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  • Can’t Samsung Re-Launch the i8910 Omnia HD?

    Posted on January 17th, 2010 anphase 14 comments
    Samsung i8910

    Bright Future?

    The Sam­sung i8910 was announced at the Mobile Wold Con­gress 2009 and offi­cially launched around the world some time in May 2009. At the time it was announced, it was not short of inno­va­tion. Being the first mobile phone to boast a 3.7″ AMOLED dis­play, first Sym­bian phone with a capac­i­tive screen, first mobile phone to sup­port OpenGL ES 2.0 and the first mobile phone with HD video record­ing. Add to that an ARM Cortex-A8 600 MHz proces­sor with a Hard­ware Graph­ics Accel­er­a­tor, 256MB RAM, an 8 Mega pixel cam­era and a com­pass just to men­tion a few of the high­lights. Some of these fea­tures are the same as, if not bet­ter than the fea­tures seen in mobile phones that have been launched lately. The Sony Eric­s­son Kurara for instance, set to be launched some time this year has a 3.5″ LED dis­play, S60 v5 and pretty much about the same fea­tures as the i8910. Accord­ing to an early leak(Russ­ian), the Kurara offers noth­ing that hasn’t been seen before on the i8910.

    Sony Erric­son Kurara, offer­ing noth­ing new

    The Omina HD has had at least a 6 month head start against this device. It has the upper hand, or does it?

    Sam­sung Mobile Inno­va­tor was launched in late 2008 as:

    a new pro­gram enabling mobile soft­ware devel­op­ers to cre­ate appli­ca­tions for use across all Sam­sung S60 devices for the first time.”

    It was launched just in time for the arrival of the i8910. To date, there are only 12 appli­ca­tions avail­able for down­load for the i8910 at the web­site, more than a year on. This has been attrib­uted to poor sales and lack of devel­oper inter­est as a result. Despite that, Sam­sung went on to unveil the Sam­sung i8910 Omnia HD Gold Edi­tion, a moved that puz­zled many. Inter­est­ingly, in the Gold Edi­tion launch arti­cle, GSM Arena called the phone an

    extremely pop­u­lar… multi-media monster”

    The price of the phone has gone down sig­nif­i­cantly since its launch. In some regions, such as my own, you can get the device for about half the ini­tial price. From a con­sumers’ point of view, that’s very appeal­ing. It’s fea­tures are com­pa­ra­ble to newer mod­els that are on the mar­ket now, mak­ing the i8910 an eas­ily rel­e­vant smart phone.

    3.7″ AMOLED dis­play — sim­i­lar to the Google Nexus One(Jan­u­ary 2010)

    ARM Cor­tex A8 600MHz proces­sor — sim­i­lar to the Motorola Mile­stone(Droid)(November 2009)

    8.1 Mega-pixel Cam­era with HD video record­ing capa­bil­ity– sim­i­lar to the rumored Sony Eric­s­son Kurara(to be announced)

    Its ground break­ing fea­tures are the dri­ving force behind its longevity. The tech­nol­ogy though may be infe­rior to the cur­rent crop of devices, as shown in my pre­vi­ous arti­cle on the dis­plays, and other areas. The i8910 is an exam­ple of risk tak­ing and push­ing tech­nol­ogy to the lim­its. To date, it’s the only smart phone with HD video record­ing capa­bil­ity. The HD record­ing fea­ture may not be per­fect, prob­a­bly because it was ahead of its time, but it’s there, tak­ing full advan­tage of the phone’s hard­ware. The phone may fall short in the appli­ca­tions arena, but the HD video record­ing and play­back make use of most of its power, to the extent of almost fail­ing with HD video recording.

    So, clearly the phone has some firm foot­ing, but if Sam­sung is to re-launch it, what would they need to do? Put Symbian^X? Not nec­es­sar­ily I think.

    Symbian 4 not happening

    Symbian^4 not hap­pen­ing for the i8910

    Some of the UI ele­ments of Symbian^4 have just been detailed and I have to say, I’m not really impressed. Skim­ming through the doc­u­ment, I noticed they don’t really men­tion much that’s new. An extract from the doc­u­ment released says:

    User inter­face design solu­tions that exist for other oper­at­ing sys­tems are sim­i­lar in the fol­low­ing respects:

    -       HTC Hero and Motorola Droid, both on Android, have a Home­screen with mov­able Home­screen wid­gets; how­ever, each has one multi-panel home­sceen page, whereas Sym­bian Foun­da­tion has inde­pen­dent unique pages

    -       Palm Pre’s WebOS elim­i­nates Exit com­mands, but instead of sav­ing state and releas­ing mem­ory it keeps appli­ca­tions running

    -       iPhone has a flat­tened appli­ca­tion library; how­ever, it is dis­played to the user exclu­sively as a man­u­ally orga­nized grid, whereas the Sym­bian Foun­da­tion appli­ca­tion library is an alpha-ordered list with mul­ti­ple fil­tered views.

    Right… not as rev­o­lu­tion­ary as I would have liked. I was expect­ing some­thing more dar­ing, adven­tur­ous and funky like the new Sym­bian Foun­da­tion theme. I was expect­ing to be blown away with some­thing like this..

    Symbian^4 as I imag­ined it

    But that’s just me. In my opin­ion, Touch Wiz run­ning on the i8910 with Symbian^1 works ok for now.

    Of the issues in the report, Sam­sung has only man­aged to address about 27% of the prob­lems and fea­tures sug­gested. The ~73% per­cent or so of the issues and fea­tures that are not being addressed are enough for a prod­uct relaunch. I mean killer fea­tures like a torch, threaded SMS, video edi­tor, fm trans­mit­ter, VoIP, multi-touch etc. are enough to make a whole new prod­uct. Instead of launch­ing a whole new prod­uct, they can just re-launch it. In my meet­ing with Chris, he men­tioned that the i8910 missed out on a lot of these fea­tures because they were either not yet pop­u­lar or they were not yet devel­oped. The device is capa­ble of sup­port­ing the fea­tures, it’s not the tech­nol­ogy that’s the prob­lem. The prob­lem is resources for car­ry­ing out such a project.

    It is not unheard of that users have had to pay for new updates. The iPod Touch is one such exam­ple. Apple charges for new updates for the iPod Touch because they introduce

    sig­nif­i­cant enhance­ments to a device that has already been launched.”

    Adding 30 or so new fea­tures, fixes and enhance­ments is a mam­moth task. iPod Touch users paid $10 for about 20 new fea­tures in the 2.0 update and another $10 for the 3.0 update. Apple unveiled new iPods/iPhones to coin­cide with these releases. Sam­sung could poten­tially use that same approach when launch­ing the i8910 Gold Edi­tion. Peo­ple who already have the device can pay a small fee, and the new devices can come with the new fea­tures on board.

    Unfor­tu­nately, that’s prob­a­bly not going to hap­pen. New devices are going to come out and leave older devices like the i8910 behind even­tu­ally, that’s the way it’s always been.

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    • touzeen

      i feel this is not the prob­lem with sam­sung but rather symbian.if they do not pro­vide user upgrad­able os,like android,i fear they will be left behind.this is not 2008 anymore,no one will buy a new mobile just for a new OS(i didnt want to buy a new desk­top so i stayed with winXP)lets hope sym­bian does not do that mistake.

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    • alsvik

      Sym­bian is a big fail­ure! My i8910 will be the last phone run­ning Sym­bian — EVER!

      Head of Sym­bian: “Ok — we need to re-invent our­selves. We have to make Sym­bian the most used OS for phones. We want peo­ple to buy phones, just because it comes with Sym­bian. So what do we do?”

      Devel­oper: “Lets try to evolve around the old Sym­bian, so we don’t waste all-ready-spent time. His­tory tells us that it is very good to develop on basis of some­thing old and famil­iar. Lets not start all over with some­thing brand new! No, users don’t want that! They just like plain old sym­bian. Lets stick to it and see if we can make some­thing inter­est­ing out of it. Users will learn to ignore the old faults of the sys­tem … We can throw in a cou­ple of demos of soon-to-come-apps. That will do it!”

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    • Nathan

      Anphase,

      I agree with your pov on this one. That being said, i think it’s high time the egg heads grab a hold of this phone and start look­ing at ways of load­ing newer/better firmware on it. Per­haps even some­thing other than sym­bian (if thats at all possible).

      I was an early adopter of the iMate Ulti­mate 9502 and was left in the cold on that one as well.

      His­tory has shown that a plat­form can­not sur­vive with­out dev sup­port, no mat­ter how good it is.

      I like my i8910 and i hope it gets the updates it deserves. But what do we look for­ward to after? I’m guess­ing this will be the only update it gets. Maybe we’ll be lucky and get ^2 or ^3, but per­haps only from the community.

      Regards

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    • http://halbertmiller.wordpress.com hal­bert­miller

      buy nin­tendo dsi r4

      The phone is expen­sive and doesn’t sup­port U.S. 3G. Call qual­ity could have been better.

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    • Has­san

      About the apps avail­able on samsungapps.com/italy
      I know that we can’t down­load them via pc since Kies does not sup­port Sym­bian. And even thru the phone, if you go to down­load apps you will find the same old apps that have been there for ever. Only the Ital­ians them­selves can acess those thru their phones. So how can we get those apps ?

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    • i8910owner1

      Seems like if you say any­thing against Sam­sung, this blog starter bans user­name (and email user’s) next post. This is cen­sor­ship! I say i8910omnia blog is the right place, this guy is already bought by the suite and tie (bureau­cratic responses over pow­ered this guy’s spirit… lol)

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    • http://anphase.wordpress.com anphase

      Really? I haven’t banned any­one. There’s an auto­matic sys­tem though that blocks spam even before I see it. Maybe your posts were mis­taken for spam? This blog is inde­pen­dent of Sam­sung and I respect everyone’s opin­ion. If you read through them you’ll notice that all kinds of com­ments have been put up, for and against Sam­sung. They are more likely to want to block this entire blog if they had their way :P

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    • Kholisun

      AWESOME STUFF THIS BLOG :) .. Keep it up :)

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    • Khaosan

      I can under­stand what the fuss was all about when this phone was just released, but now it’s halfway obso­lete. For one thing, it’s huge and heavy to carry it around in your pocket.

      Save your time and energy Anphase. No com­pany deserves your effort. By the time they get around to releas­ing the next patch, which I highly doubt, this phone will already be obso­lete. Every year there are bet­ter phones com­ing out. The i8910’s time is just about up.

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    • Surge

      This phone is halfway obso­lete?
      By what stan­dards??
      You are insane to think that.
      The i8910 is one of the best designed prod­ucts ever released in the his­tory of con­sumer elec­tron­ics.
      It’s the SOFTWARE that is the prob­lem, not the hardware.

      A re-launch would be awe­some, but it will never hap­pen.
      Com­pa­nies like Sam­sung and Nokia do not oper­ate like Apple does.

      Apple has ONE fam­ily of devices, a devel­op­ment team in ONE loca­tion, and they have the proper resources to focus and achieve goals like they have in the past; this is why the iPhone \ iTouch and even the iPad have come out with such great software.

      Sam­sung has TONS of mobile devices, devel­op­ment teams all over the world that don’t (and prob­a­bly can’t) com­mu­ni­cate with each other! This is the rea­son why some regions got NO firmware updates at all. They don’t have the resources to make the i8910 into an iPhone wor­thy com­peti­tor, espe­cially with Symbian.

      Other com­pa­nies like HTC and Motorola have learned to work with Google and are actu­ally able to have focus and good com­mu­ni­ca­tion among their devel­op­ers. You can see this right away when you pick up a droid (mile­stone) or nexus one. The soft­ware is not buggy, there are no scroll bar errors or UI quirks. Every­thing is mostly as it should be soft­ware wise to pro­vide a good user expe­ri­ence and keep frus­tra­tion at a minimum.

      Sam­sung decided to go their own way and said F-you to Sym­bian and made their own os, BADA. This is their way of being able to com­mu­ni­cate and cre­ate a foun­da­tion that all of their devel­op­ers can rely on — some­thing that Sym­bian just could not pro­vide them; hence why the i8910 came out the way that it did.

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    • Fevves

      Not huge and heavy for me at all. Even 4″ TS smart­phone wouldn’t be. It’s not obso­lete HW wise and is still one of the strongest smart­phones out there, w/e OS fla­vor and com­pany you pick. It’s the lack of proper sup­port what makes it weak, but we shall wait for a bit and see how Sam­sung responds.

      So Kurara, X6 and lots of other phones should never come to be pro­duced at all see­ing your opin­ion i8910 is already old and not wor­thy (of what)? I’m glad oth­ers tend to make sim­i­lar phones and then try to sell them for higher price then i8910 — that could boost i8910 sales and also make Sam­sung fur­ther sup­port our phone.

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    • Don

      At the moment the Symbian^1 is the open source, Am i wright? Is there any pro­gram­mers who can improve all the bugs in 8910? It’s a chance to rean­i­mate the device.

      8910 has really strong hard­ware base. Only thing is nec­es­sary is soft

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